Curse

Henchman · Jul 25, 2007, 03:22 PM // 15:22

Simple question really: If it was legal to buy or sell your ingame gold would you do so?

Lets say the average farmer could make about 1/4th of the cash he would make in a real job (ie. if you earn $4 an hour in a real job, you would earn $1 an hour selling your farmed gold). (Feel free to make your own rates)

I think I would sell some of mine. It would be nice to make some cash playing the game, And I ussually farm when I'm bored, so I might as well turn it into a profit..

Please note: This thread has nothing to with bots. For the sake of the thread, assume that bots do not exist. Assume that the gold you would buy comes from real players who chose to sell their gold, and that you are not supporting the illegal bot factory.
And for the sake of the EULA, please don't post something such as "I already buy my gold from ebay".

lacasner · Jul 25, 2007, 03:32 PM // 15:32

Oj: If i did it heres how

Not really smart to be talking about this imo.

Pkest · Jul 25, 2007, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Well by criminalizing the sale of any commodity you are essentially keeping the profit in it for the criminals. If you de-criminalize it then the profit goes away and so do the criminals. So I wonder what affect this would have on bots.

onerabbit · Jul 25, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14

if u was aloud, i would sell my gold =p

i wouldnt buy any though lol.. unless it was from Anet or summin.

Miral · Jul 25, 2007, 04:19 PM // 16:19

No. There is so much wrong with trading real money for game gold and vice versa... Station Exchange is one of the reasons many people lost what little respect they had left for SOE. Don't let Anet suffer the same fate.

Healers Wisper · Jul 25, 2007, 05:01 PM // 17:01

Ok let me say this, Buy fake gold with real money is stupid! Period. I would never buy gold so I could have stuff in a game that makes my toon look pretty. This is just dumb. And no I would sell my gold either. to me there is a sence of accomplishment in this game by getting expensive stuff and whatnot. this community may look at someone with FOW armor and say, how much did that cost on e-bay, but i know I worked hard for all my elite armor and assume others are looking for that same sence of accomplishment.

I will not support the give it to me know mentality that is plagueing our society. What ever happened to actually working for something, even if it is in game. Instant Gratification FTW

Blackest Rose · Jul 25, 2007, 05:04 PM // 17:04

Honestly - if it was legal....

Yeah I'd buy gold - I hate not having a proper trade system and standing spamming/waiting for hours on end.
It'll probably be the major thing which will stop me from playing guild wars after 1 or 2 runs through GW:EN....

Would I sell gold - no, not out to make a few real world dollars - my time is more precious than that.

thezed · Jul 25, 2007, 05:12 PM // 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henchman

Please note: This thread has nothing to with bots. For the sake of the thread, assume that bots do not exist. Assume that the gold you would buy comes from real players who chose to sell their gold, and that you are not supporting the illegal bot factory.
And for the sake of the EULA, please don't post something such as "I already buy my gold from ebay".

In a world where there are not bots: sure, I might buy or sell some gold.

(Not that I WANT this to become legal, it would seriously ruin the game economy)

HayesA · Jul 25, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Well, it would work in Anet did it, and made it so that only registered farmers could sell gold for real money. That would in a way, stop a majority on the illegal sellers. By partnering with eBay to stop it would work as well. In theory that is. It's the exact same thing with a certain drug that will remain nameless. Some States are actually already on their way to legalize said drug; in limited, controlled means. Though, offical sales from the state nonetheless.

If anet did this in a smart, controlled manor, in a year or so, or otherwise a porportaional time frame; it would work.

Keep in mind, in theory yes. In practice, we'll have to see won't we? The only way to make theories into well established rules is experiment and work at it. Not to mention, "Best layed plans.."

They often fail.

Yichi · Jul 25, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31

OMG yes must buy 100000000000000k because gold in GW is so hard to come across....

/end sarcasm

In all honesty, it probably wouldn't effect the economy as much as many people would think it would. The game is full of people now that buy their guildwars gold from non-authorised sites and flood the economy with gold as it is. Why else would we have a warning about buying online gold from item sites on the login screen? The damage has already been done and its doubtful but not impossible that it would get much worse than it currently is.

Healers Wisper · Jul 25, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Ok let me say this, Buy fake gold with real money is stupid! Period. I would never buy gold so I could have stuff in a game that makes my toon look pretty. This is just dumb. And no I would sell my gold either. to me there is a sence of accomplishment in this game by getting expensive stuff and whatnot. this community may look at someone with FOW armor and say, how much did that cost on e-bay, but i know I worked hard for all my elite armor and assume others are looking for that same sence of accomplishment.

I will not support the give it to me know mentality that is plagueing our society. What ever happened to actually working for something, even if it is in game. Instant Gratification FTW

Age · Jul 25, 2007, 05:59 PM // 17:59

I would probably buy it like all things in life and would I sell it maybe for 100K for $1.it really not worth it.I wouldn't think about doing this if it was way easier to obtain it in game like before all the pve area nerfs came.I tell you they unnerf all those areas even the run and set it back to May05 my chances of buying are rare.

FoxBat · Jul 25, 2007, 06:42 PM // 18:42

If it was legal?

Do let us know when the first goldseller is convicted or sued...

WinterSnowblind · Jul 25, 2007, 06:54 PM // 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

If it was legal?

Do let us know when the first goldseller is convicted or sued...

It is illegal. Most of the time I suspect they will just terminate the account, and that will stop it from happening. But people have been sued over it before.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/47220/

Jessyi · Jul 25, 2007, 07:20 PM // 19:20

If I spend real life money on in game gold, that's stupid.

Time is money.

I already spend time in game, ergo, I am already stupid and therefore do not care.

I think people who think that buying in-game gold is stupid are stupid (let it sink in). First I'd like to say I've spent my unhealthy amount of time in game. I've got my gold and all the weapon and armor skins through legit means. But let's look at the people who have incentive to buy gold - the people you say need to get lives. Chances are the people pathetic enough to buy gold are in fact saving themselves time spent in game to like...go live real actual lives. If you make $10 an hour, and gold costs $50 per million, that's 5 hours of real life work to make a million gold. You can say it's 5 hours of real world money you just wasted on a game, but since it probably takes your average player like 50 hours+ to make a million gold (especially if they're a casual player) then you've saved yourself 45 hours or more to go do things like, shower, and...see the sun again. In a sum-total measurement of the cost of buying in-game gold, it's not at all stupid, it's economical.

That said, I've got no real opinion of whether or not buying gold should be allowed. Let's just say I've got a feeling that it's a bad idea. I think there are good reasons to dislike the sale of ingame gold (largely limited to the impact on the economy). However, without some kind of ANet report on the impact of gold farmers and a projected view of the impact it would have if it were made legal, you'll probably just argue that pointlessly in circles......

-Jessyi

Neo Nugget · Jul 25, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47

sell gold? pffft no way.
buy gold? nahhh still no

MrFuzzles · Jul 25, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Gold isn't a big deal in GW since it's so easy to get "max" stuff anyway. You could probably get lvl20, a max collector's weapon with the most desirable inscription, and max armor within a week of casual play.
If gold purchasing or an item shop became available in GW I wouldn't care at all. I would not buy any gold but maybe sell some. It's not a big deal if others spend real cash on novelty and vanity items that I can't afford.

It's mostly pvp games where the cap for "max" stuff is high that I think buying gold is a big deal. You are essentially bringing real money onto the monopoly table to beat other players. I'm not going to dispute it in a game where it's allowed and intended by the makers of the game, but people trying to justify it in a competitive pvp game where the sky is the limit as far as gear and wealth goes, are naive and self-centered.
The "it's my money, I can do with it whatever I want" argument doesn't hold any water when you're spending it on cheating in a game where it's specifically against the rules. It's like bringing a race car to a horse race and justifying it by "hey I spent my own money on it, it's none of your damn business".

Zorgy · Jul 25, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49

Would you buy or sell gold if it was legal?
Would you buy or sell DRUGS

if it was legal?

Why dont you play GW instead of posting such kind of topics?

I know the answer.....

Who will create the next MORON topic?

Zorgy · Jul 25, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49

Would you buy or sell gold if it was legal?
Would you buy or sell DRUGS

if it was legal?

Why dont you play GW instead of posting such kind of topics?

I know the answer.....

Who will create the next MORON topic?

Painbringer · Jul 25, 2007, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Buy – No, I am too cheap to pay a monthly charge (why would I pay for gold)
Sell – No, Not worth the time to farm it (You would have to have numerous bots to be able to turn a real profit)